{"id":11699,"date":"2021-06-15T22:47:04","date_gmt":"2021-06-15T20:47:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/?p=11699"},"modified":"2022-04-11T10:28:06","modified_gmt":"2022-04-11T08:28:06","slug":"ministeres-charismes-et-pouvoir-le-23-juin-par-zoom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/2021\/06\/15\/ministeres-charismes-et-pouvoir-le-23-juin-par-zoom\/","title":{"rendered":"Minist\u00e8res, charismes et pouvoir. Avec Roselyne Dupont-Roc et Antoine Guggenheim"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Logo-carre.png?resize=146%2C146&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Logo carr\u00e9\" class=\"wp-image-6475 lazyload\" width=\"146\" height=\"146\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Logo-carre.png?w=512&amp;ssl=1 512w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Logo-carre.png?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Logo-carre.png?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Logo-carre.png?resize=12%2C12&amp;ssl=1 12w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Logo-carre.png?resize=450%2C450&amp;ssl=1 450w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 146px) 100vw, 146px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 146px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 146\/146;\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left is-style-lead has-sm-dark-primary-color has-sm-light-secondary-background-color has-text-color has-background has-large-font-size\">Les d\u00e9bats de Saint-Merry Hors-les-Murs<br><strong>Minist\u00e8res, charismes et pouvoir dans une \u00c9glise synodale<\/strong><br>Avec <strong>Roselyne Dupont-Roc<\/strong>, bibliste, <br>et <strong>Antoine Guggenheim<\/strong>, th\u00e9ologien<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-default has-sm-light-secondary-color has-sm-color-primary-background-color has-text-color has-background\">Pour revoir le d\u00e9bat du 23 juin 2021 :<strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><iframe title=\"Minist\u00e8res, charismes et pouvoir dans une \u00c9glise synodale   SD 480p\" width=\"885\" height=\"498\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-orBXX9xkwI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" data-load-mode=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">\u00c0 la veille du synode sur l\u2019\u00c9glise, il est plus que jamais urgent de s\u2019interroger sur l\u2019articulation entre charismes, minist\u00e8res et pouvoir, telle qu\u2019elle est v\u00e9cue dans nos communaut\u00e9s chr\u00e9tiennes. Car le cl\u00e9ricalisme, cette \u00ab&nbsp;caricature de la vocation re\u00e7ue&nbsp;\u00bb, ainsi que le d\u00e9nonce le pape Fran\u00e7ois, est toujours \u00e0 l\u2019\u0153uvre. Et avec le cl\u00e9ricalisme, les abus de toutes sortes, comme le d\u00e9montre l\u2019histoire r\u00e9cente.<br>Par quels d\u00e9tours dans l\u2019histoire de l\u2019\u00c9glise est-on arriv\u00e9 \u00e0 la confusion, et \u00e0 l\u2019assimilation en une seule, de ces deux r\u00e9alit\u00e9s antinomiques, minist\u00e8re et pouvoir&nbsp;? Et, pour poser le probl\u00e8me \u00e0 la racine, qu\u2019en est-il des charismes et des minist\u00e8res \u00e0 l\u2019origine du christianisme, dans l\u2019\u00c9glise naissante&nbsp;?<br>Si la synodalit\u00e9 \u00ab&nbsp;n\u2019est autre que le \u201cmarcher ensemble\u201d du troupeau de Dieu sur les sentiers de l\u2019histoire \u00e0 la rencontre du Christ Seigneur&nbsp;\u00bb, peut-elle servir d\u2019antidote \u00e0 la tentation r\u00e9currente de confondre minist\u00e8res et pouvoir&nbsp;?<br>Autant de questions que nous aborderons lors du d\u00e9bat de Saint-Merry Hors-les-Murs, avec Roselyne Dupont-Roc, hell\u00e9niste et bibliste, et Antoine Guggenheim, th\u00e9ologien, codirecteurs de l\u2019ouvrage<em> Apr\u00e8s J\u00e9sus. 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