{"id":52889,"date":"2024-05-03T20:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-05-03T18:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/?p=52889"},"modified":"2024-05-03T16:23:06","modified_gmt":"2024-05-03T14:23:06","slug":"la-possibilite-dun-salut","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/2024\/05\/03\/la-possibilite-dun-salut\/","title":{"rendered":"La possibilit\u00e9 d\u2019un salut\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Comme dit Eschyle : \u201cCe qui est divin est sans effort.\u201c <\/em><br><em>Il y a dans le salut une facilit\u00e9 plus difficile pour nous (les chr\u00e9tiens) <\/em><br><em>que tous les efforts.&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<cite>Simone Weil \u2013&nbsp;<em>Amour de l&rsquo;ordre du monde&nbsp;<\/em>\u2013 p. 135<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"490\" height=\"800\" data-src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Simone-Weil-Attente-de-Dieu-1.jpeg?resize=490%2C800&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Simone Weil Attente De Dieu 1\" class=\"wp-image-52896 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 490px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 490\/800;width:222px;height:auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Simone-Weil-Attente-de-Dieu-1.jpeg?w=490&amp;ssl=1 490w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Simone-Weil-Attente-de-Dieu-1.jpeg?resize=184%2C300&amp;ssl=1 184w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Simone-Weil-Attente-de-Dieu-1.jpeg?resize=7%2C12&amp;ssl=1 7w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Simone-Weil-Attente-de-Dieu-1.jpeg?resize=450%2C735&amp;ssl=1 450w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 490px) 100vw, 490px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Voici quelques extraits de la correspondance compil\u00e9e <br>de Simone Weil dans\u00a0<em>Attente de Dieu<\/em> : il y a l\u00e0 <br>de quoi stimuler d\u2019intenses m\u00e9ditations\u2026\u00a0:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.agoravox.fr\/culture-loisirs\/extraits-d-ouvrages\/article\/simone-weil-attente-de-dieu-221251\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u00e0 lire ici.<\/a> <br>Le texte complet est disponible\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/classiques.uqac.ca\/classiques\/weil_simone\/attente_de_dieu\/attente_de_dieu_1966.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">ici.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"la-possibilite-meme-d-un-salut-venant-du-hasard-ou-d-un-sauveur-a-t-elle-sa-place-dans-notre-monde\">La possibilit\u00e9 m\u00eame d\u2019un salut <br>venant du hasard ou d\u2019un sauveur <br>a-t-elle sa place <br>dans notre monde&nbsp;?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Voici ma compr\u00e9hension qui s&rsquo;ajoute \u00e0 d&rsquo;autres compr\u00e9hensions, dans le respect du principe en trois temps suivant&nbsp;:&nbsp;<br>1. il y a beaucoup de compr\u00e9hensions<br>2. aucune compr\u00e9hension ne doit \u00eatre absolutis\u00e9e, forc\u00e9e<br>3. toutes les compr\u00e9hensions sont menac\u00e9es de d\u00e9conversion<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-sm-color-primary-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-8c96c70c2bd47708af7afff3b90c1007\"><strong>Je vois trois explications \u00e0 la difficult\u00e9 pour nous de trouver le salut dans la facilit\u00e9<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"720\" height=\"838\" data-src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Le-Bon-Pasteur-icone-russe-19e-s.-Pays-Bas.jpg?resize=720%2C838&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Le Bon Pasteur Icone Russe 19e S. Pays Bas\" class=\"wp-image-52921 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 720px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 720\/838;width:275px;height:auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Le-Bon-Pasteur-icone-russe-19e-s.-Pays-Bas.jpg?w=880&amp;ssl=1 880w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Le-Bon-Pasteur-icone-russe-19e-s.-Pays-Bas.jpg?resize=258%2C300&amp;ssl=1 258w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Le-Bon-Pasteur-icone-russe-19e-s.-Pays-Bas.jpg?resize=768%2C894&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Le-Bon-Pasteur-icone-russe-19e-s.-Pays-Bas.jpg?resize=10%2C12&amp;ssl=1 10w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Le-Bon-Pasteur-icone-russe-19e-s.-Pays-Bas.jpg?resize=640%2C745&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Le-Bon-Pasteur-icone-russe-19e-s.-Pays-Bas.jpg?resize=450%2C524&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Le-Bon-Pasteur-icone-russe-19e-s.-Pays-Bas.jpg?resize=688%2C800&amp;ssl=1 688w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Le-Bon-Pasteur-icone-russe-19e-s.-Pays-Bas.jpg?resize=800%2C931&amp;ssl=1 800w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Le Bon Pasteur<\/em>, ic\u00f4ne russe 19e s., Pays-Bas<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Parce que <strong>l&rsquo;attachement le plus g\u00e9n\u00e9ral et le plus puissant va \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9change<\/strong>.<br>Ce qui compte c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;\u00e9quivalence du don et du contre-don&nbsp;; gagnant\/gagnant, donnant\/donnant, \u00ab&nbsp;\u0153il pour \u0153il, dent pour dent&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;; alors que notre attachement le moins spontan\u00e9 va \u00e0 la r\u00e9ciprocit\u00e9&nbsp;: ce qui compte c&rsquo;est la relation entre le donateur et le b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaire (voir&nbsp;<em>Chanson pour l&rsquo;Auvergnat<\/em>&nbsp;de Georges Brassens)&nbsp;; la facilit\u00e9 voudrait que nous, les b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaires, choisissions la relation avec le donateur J\u00e9sus et pourtant, c&rsquo;est loin d&rsquo;\u00eatre le cas \u00e0 cause de notre attachement \u00e0 nos efforts et \u00e0 nos m\u00e9rites.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Parce que <strong>notre attachement le plus g\u00e9n\u00e9ral et le plus puissant va \u00e0 une analyse <\/strong>normative des ph\u00e9nom\u00e8nes \u00e0 expliquer relatifs au vivre-ensemble des humains, une analyse normative <strong>traitant de \u00ab&nbsp;ce qui devrait \u00eatre&nbsp;\u00bb<\/strong>. <br>Alors que notre attachement le moins spontan\u00e9 va \u00e0 l&rsquo;analyse positive qui a pour objet d\u2019expliquer \u00ab ce qui est \u00bb, <br>certains parlant \u00e0 ce propos d\u2019analyse descriptive. <br>Il est rare en effet que celui qui se contente d\u2019expliquer \u00ab ce qui est \u00bb soit \u00e9cout\u00e9 ou compris par ceux qui jugent sans expliquer, parce que ces derniers consid\u00e8rent qu\u2019un tel travail d\u2019explication revient \u00e0 justifier \u00ab&nbsp;ce qui est \u00bb. La facilit\u00e9 voudrait que nous nous attachions \u00e0 \u00ab&nbsp;ce qui est&nbsp;\u00bb, <br>\u00e0 savoir le salut offert par J\u00e9sus, le Bon Pasteur, le Chemin, la V\u00e9rit\u00e9 et la Vie.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Parce que <strong>notre attachement le plus g\u00e9n\u00e9ral et le plus puissant va vers le jugement <\/strong><br>alors que notre attachement le moins spontan\u00e9 va vers ce que la philosophie grecque appelle&nbsp;<em>l\u2019\u00e9poch\u00e8<\/em>, cette posture qui consiste \u00e0 suspendre son jugement et qui est tout particuli\u00e8rement indispensable pour appr\u00e9hender la conscience humaine. La facilit\u00e9 voudrait <br>que nous nous attachions \u00e0 \u00ab&nbsp;la mis\u00e9ricorde de J\u00e9sus qui l&#8217;emporte sur le jugement&nbsp;\u00bb (Jc 2, 13b).<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-lead\">Ma compr\u00e9hension est donc essentiellement discutable et \u00e0 ce titre lib\u00e9ratrice <br>de toutes mes peurs et de tous mes efforts pour m&rsquo;attacher \u00e0 J\u00e9sus, <br>quand c&rsquo;est lui qui se propose de s&rsquo;attacher \u00e0 moi, parce que je le comprends <br>comme cela, par&nbsp;<em>\u00ab&nbsp;une convention ratifi\u00e9e par Dieu, m\u00eame&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;<\/em>(Simone Weil).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Jacques Clavier<\/p>\n<div class=\"cats\"><span class=\"cats__title\">Categories<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/category\/a-la-une\/\" rel=\"category tag\">\u00c0 la Une<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/category\/spiritualite\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Spiritualit\u00e9<\/a><\/div><div class=\"tags\"><div class=\"tags__title\">Tags<\/div><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/attachement\/\" rel=\"tag\">attachement<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/attente-de-dieu\/\" rel=\"tag\">Attente de Dieu<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/bon-pasteur\/\" rel=\"tag\">bon pasteur<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/comprehension\/\" rel=\"tag\">compr\u00e9hension<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/deconversion\/\" rel=\"tag\">d\u00e9conversion<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/echange\/\" rel=\"tag\">\u00e9change<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/effort\/\" rel=\"tag\">effort<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/epoche\/\" rel=\"tag\">\u00e9poch\u00e8<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/jugement\/\" rel=\"tag\">jugement<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/reciprocite\/\" rel=\"tag\">r\u00e9ciprocit\u00e9<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/salut\/\" rel=\"tag\">salut<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/tag\/simone-weil\/\" rel=\"tag\">Simone Weil<\/a><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La possibilit\u00e9 m\u00eame d\u2019un salut venant du hasard ou d\u2019un sauveur a-t-elle sa place dans notre monde\u00a0? Face \u00e0 la difficult\u00e9 pour nous de trouver le salut dans la facilit\u00e9, les trois explications de Jacques Clavier, inspir\u00e9 par Simone Weil.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":39381,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ghostkit_customizer_options":"","ghostkit_custom_css":"","ghostkit_custom_js_head":"","ghostkit_custom_js_foot":"","ghostkit_typography":"","spt_transcript":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_FSMCFIC_featured_image_caption":"","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_nocaption":"","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_hide":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[43,493],"tags":[4055,4054,395,4058,4060,4056,4059,4057,2968,3537,251,2946],"class_list":["post-52889","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-a-la-une","category-spiritualite","tag-attachement","tag-attente-de-dieu","tag-bon-pasteur","tag-comprehension","tag-deconversion","tag-echange","tag-effort","tag-epoche","tag-jugement","tag-reciprocite","tag-salut","tag-simone-weil"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Photo-Lina-Trochez-sur-Unsplash-scaled.jpg?fit=2560%2C1709&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/52889","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=52889"}],"version-history":[{"count":31,"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/52889\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":52942,"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/52889\/revisions\/52942"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/39381"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=52889"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=52889"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/saintmerry-hors-les-murs.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=52889"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}